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NBarden
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:35 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Anonymous Prodigy,

By showing your utter contempt and disrespect for the well-being of fellow members of CobraCards including the Chosen Ones,

By ruling as a despot, awarding promotions and ranks to those of the Chosen Ones whom you choose without consultation with other members of the Chosen Ones,

By revealing the secret vote of members (namely, elf lvr and myself), on including new members in the Chosen Ones, thus eliminating our right to a secret ballot,

By giving yourself veto power on the joining of new members, an issue decided by the Chosen Ones, a democracy not to be overrode by the Aftokrator,

By restricting the right to vote to those who have attained rank in the Chosen Ones, said rank being chosen by you, as aforementioned,

By demanding that the Chosen Ones mark themselves with a badge that all may know their rank or lack thereof, and thus using up room in the signature which could be put to better use,

By shutting down the Chosen Ones discussion thread where all can have their voices heard, and ordering all suggestions go through you,

You, Anonymous Prodigy have set yourself up as a tyrant, a despot of the Chosen Ones, one who puts his ideals before the ideals of the Chosen Ones, I, NBarden, Komis of the Chosen Ones, do hereby declare that as a tyrant, you have been removed of your position, lose the powers of Aftokrator and I hereby declare an election for a new Aftokrator,

One that will distribute promotions on a fair basis,

One that will keep our right to secret ballot,

One that does not abuse his veto power in the acceptance of new members,

One that allows the right to vote to all members of the Chosen Ones, by allowing all members the right to promotion,

One that gives the freedom of devoting their signature to other pursuits besides that of the Chosen Ones,

One that will allow the free discussion of matters concerning the Chosen Ones,

Thus said, I hereby nominate Dain Ironfoot for Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones, and call the Chosen Ones to vote to support my nomination.

So says Count NBarden, Defender of the Chosen Ones.

Long Live the Chosen Ones!
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Anonymous Prodigy
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:30 pm
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 4197 Location: United States
A [solo] mutiny! Shocked

Hmmm... let us examine these claims, NB. Smile

NBarden wrote:
By showing your utter contempt and disrespect for the well-being of fellow members of CobraCards including the Chosen Ones

Given all of your reasons below, I guess I can see where you are coming from. Let’s keep going, though.

NBarden wrote:
By ruling as a despot, awarding promotions and ranks to those of the Chosen Ones whom you choose without consultation with other members of the Chosen Ones

I got input from Dain a few times. Input is welcome from other members, though. Don’t be afraid of PMing me! Rolling Eyes

NBarden wrote:
By revealing the secret vote of members (namely, elf lvr and myself), on including new members in the Chosen Ones, thus eliminating our right to a secret ballot

Ah, I admit my fault. I should not have done that, and I apologize.

NBarden wrote:
By restricting the right to vote to those who have attained rank in the Chosen Ones, said rank being chosen by you, as aforementioned

Oh, do you mean having to be a Varonos to vote? Think That amendment was accepted by the Chosen Ones.

NBarden wrote:
By demanding that the Chosen Ones mark themselves with a badge that all may know their rank or lack thereof, and thus using up room in the signature which could be put to better use

I agree with you here. That isn’t really necessary, and I shouldn’t be demanding something like that. Feel free to change your sig! Thumbs Up

NBarden wrote:
By shutting down the Chosen Ones discussion thread where all can have their voices heard, and ordering all suggestions go through you

It was becoming filled with spam. Several times I asked something like, Let’s keep the spam in this thread to a minimum, shall we? and my requests were basically ignored. The thread was becoming a huge spam thread, rather than a business thread for the Chosen Ones.

NBarden wrote:
You, Anonymous Prodigy have set yourself up as a tyrant, a despot of the Chosen Ones, one who puts his ideals before the ideals of the Chosen Ones, I, NBarden, Komis of the Chosen Ones, do hereby declare that as a tyrant, you have been removed of your position, lose the powers of Aftokrator and I hereby declare an election for a new Aftokrator

According to Amendment 2, which was accepted by the Chosen Ones...

Amendment 2
The current Aftokrator may be removed from his office only by his resignation; or, by the unanimous vote of every member against his remaining the Aftokrator.

Hence, every member must be in favor of my removal from office for it to take place.

NBarden wrote:
One that will distribute promotions on a fair basis,

One that will keep our right to secret ballot,

One that does not abuse his veto power in the acceptance of new members,

One that allows the right to vote to all members of the Chosen Ones, by allowing all members the right to promotion,

One that gives the freedom of devoting their signature to other pursuits besides that of the Chosen Ones,

One that will allow the free discussion of matters concerning the Chosen Ones,

Thus said, I hereby nominate Dain Ironfoot for Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones, and call the Chosen Ones to vote to support my nomination

Like I said, the vote for me to be removed from office must be unanimous.

NBarden wrote:
So says Count NBarden, Defender of the Chosen Ones.

Long Live the Chosen Ones!

I like your spirit, NB. Applause


Give me some feedback, members? Firstly, should I be removed from office? Secondly, what should I change? I highly value your opinion, so let me know! Smile
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NBarden
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:18 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Ah...man. It didn’t work.

It was a prank. SoP, Dain, and I were going to stage a coup and set up Dain Ironfoot as Aftokrator while you were gone and see your reaction when you came back. But it didn’t work...

Ask SoP. He thought of it. Wink Why couldn’t you have been gone a little longer?

Still, some of the suggestions were legitimate. I think that all Chosen Ones should be able to vote, but new and untried CC members should be given a trial period in which they are not a Chosen Ones member, after the trial period, a vote is held, and if they join, they can vote. I was a little irritated by putting my name out as voting for giving Thranduil a trial period. Also, the rule that the Aftokrator can only be deposed by unanimity kinda shoots the whole thing in the foot. That means you can vote to keep yourself in. I think it should be 2/3 majority (in case you do do something very wrong).

IMO.

But anyway, it was just a prank. To bad you caught it before anyone else could post.
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elf lvr
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:00 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
I would not vote for the usurping of AP anyways.
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Anonymous Prodigy
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:11 pm
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 4197 Location: United States
My reaction? What was I supposed to do? Razz

Alrighty, I’ll go ahead and state these things:

If you think somebody (besides yourself) deserves a promotion, please let me know. Very Happy

All voters’ names will be kept secret. Smile

If you don’t want your title in your sig, then by all means, remove it! Thumbs Up

I will also edit Amendment 2 to say that a 2/3 majority must be required for me to be removed from office. Thumbs Up



And NB, SoP, and Dain are demoted to Lower Than Mud (Lower Than Mud) for making me think I was going to be mutinied upon. Laughing

Good one, guys. Good one. Y’all had me worried... Mr. Green
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NBarden
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:17 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Also, is there a place that can b kept 100% spam free where we can discuss important things in the ordering of the Chosen Ones? Like new bills?

And I nominate Dain to the rank of Vice-Aftokrator.

~NBarden- Lower than Mud.
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Anonymous Prodigy
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:31 pm
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 4197 Location: United States
NBarden wrote:
Also, is there a place that can b kept 100% spam free where we can discuss important things in the ordering of the Chosen Ones? Like new bills?

If the members want it, the members shall get it.

NBarden wrote:
And I nominate Dain to the rank of Vice-Aftokrator.

Maybe we should set up a new rank system. Any thoughts?

NBarden wrote:
~NBarden- Lower than Mud.

I was kidding about your title. Rolling Eyes
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:37 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
[quote="Anonymous Prodigy"]
NBarden wrote:
NBarden wrote:
And I nominate Dain to the rank of Vice-Aftokrator.

Maybe we should set up a new rank system. Any thoughts?

IF NB is serious, I gladly accept. Very Happy Not sure what other members would think about that, though. I wouldn’t say I’ve earned it more than anyone else....
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NBarden
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:48 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
I think we need a Vice-Aftokrator, and Dain is perfect.

Anonymous Prodigy wrote:
NBarden wrote:
~NBarden- Lower than Mud.

I was kidding about your title. Rolling Eyes


I rather like it.

Dain, you’re lower than mud to. Update your sig.
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bobtheorc
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:53 pm
Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 1218 Location: Wow, its hot in Iowa
OOh inter-group action..
I like it.

Anyway what rank does the "Official Chosen Ones Observer" get for this?
I would like the rank of "Pond Scummy" or "SOP" if you really wanta lower my rank. Laughing
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