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| sickofpalantirs |
 Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:46 pm |
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"evolution has been obviously occurring"
show me one example of a fossil link aside from the "ape people" like lucy and such.
Like how about a wolf-fish?
of course micro-evolution is occurring everywhere but IMHO macro evolution is a bunch of pish-posh.
but after this last post i guess I was right the first time no matter how much evidence I give out you won’t listen and will always be able to think of some excuse. |
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| La_Sin_Grail |
| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:14 pm |
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Um... I’m not seeing evidence, dude. Here’s some for my theory
1) Lycu, which you don’t seem to accept
2) Ice Ages ending are a large part of what makes deserts. It’s a long story, but during the ending of Ice Ages, the land that was covered in ice becomes more moist (in general, of course) and causes the land not covered in ice to become drier. Hence, most deserts are near the equator. The cold deserts/tiaga are where the water is still stuck in ice form. therefore, there have been ice ages, and the earth is older than 10k years.
3) Fossils carbon dated. Carbon dating could tell those guys who counterfeited old money because it was minted like 2 yrs ago instea od 100. Think of the difference between 10k and 4,000,000k (4 billion) years.
4) Oil not made synthetically in Australian labs. Unless people used to be freakin’ geniusses and played a big trick where they dug up fossils, turned them to oil and reburied them so well we couldn’t tell, then oil came about naturally over an exceedingly long process.
5) Look at Australia. Because there were few people out there, when it was discovered, there were the most beings w/ poisons and immunities to them. This is because they developed poisons as defense mechanisms, then the predators with immunity to it survived.
If you believe in micro-evolution, that’s cool. What I don’t get is how macro-evolution is different- it just took a lot longer but plodded along at the same rate. |
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| sickofpalantirs |
| Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:09 am |
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La_Sin_Grail wrote: Um... I’m not seeing evidence, dude. Here’s some for my theory
1) Lycu, which you don’t seem to accept
no clue what that is for my ideas I have the Rapid decay theory which you don’t accept
2) Ice Ages ending are a large part of what makes deserts. It’s a long story, but during the ending of Ice Ages, the land that was covered in ice becomes more moist (in general, of course) and causes the land not covered in ice to become drier. Hence, most deserts are near the equator. The cold deserts/tiaga are where the water is still stuck in ice form. therefore, there have been ice ages, and the earth is older than 10k years.
yes I belive there has been an ice age probably right after the flood
3) Fossils carbon dated. Carbon dating could tell those guys who counterfeited old money because it was minted like 2 yrs ago instea od 100. Think of the difference between 10k and 4,000,000k (4 billion) years.
you are not going to listen to reason on this so why bother?
4) Oil not made synthetically in Australian labs. Unless people used to be freakin’ geniusses and played a big trick where they dug up fossils, turned them to oil and reburied them so well we couldn’t tell, then oil came about naturally over an exceedingly long process.
yeah I know you say this is a stupid answer but god could have made oil. Also the flood might have had some effect on bones or something ID totally understand how oil is created(haven’ gotten there in science)... so I am in the dark on this one
5) Look at Australia. Because there were few people out there, when it was discovered, there were the most beings w/ poisons and immunities to them. This is because they developed poisons as defense mechanisms, then the predators with immunity to it survived.
huh? what does that have to do with evolution
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| La_Sin_Grail |
| Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:35 pm |
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Lucy.
I don’t accept rapid decay because there is no evidence to support it. Lucy (which I spelled wrong, so that’s probably the issue) was the name granted to a creature evolving into a human, which looks like a half bred ape/person, from a time when people were evolving.
If there were an ice age after the flood, why isn’t it in the bible if the flood is?
I would like to hear some more reason on your anti-carbon dating stuff. So far, I’ve heard that once it was innacurate and that’s it... if there’s some sort of reason or multiple instances displaying a trend, I’d love to hear it.
On oil. the basis is bones, aged for millions of years. Somebody said (and I must say I’ve never heard of that now, since, or seen reliable sources of this) that oil was made in an Australian lab. However, considering a lack of evidence on this matter, I’ll maintain that the only way I’ve known oil to be made is through fossils + time.
Australia was untampered raw natural selection for millions of years. Currently, most of the highly poisonous creatures (yes, there are plenty outside it too, but Australia has as many kinds as the world put together or more- I can’t remember which) inhabit there. Since it takes thousands of years for populations to change from predominantly non-poisonous (at least in regards to specific poisons) to mostly poisonous, and this process has taken place MANY times, it stands to reason that this provess has occured- hence to world is over 10k yrs. old by a lot. |
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| ingold55 |
| Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:11 pm |
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La_Sin_Grail wrote: ingold55 wrote:
One last thing,
when we all die, if i am wrong about God, bit whoop. nothing will happen to me i will just be dead.
if a non-believer dies, but God is real, he has everything to lose!
And that is exactly why I refuse to be religious. I know that if I were to become religious on that principle, then I would believe all the junk about God knowing everything, and then he would know I was being untrue, which is an even worse wrong.
ok let me say this. God knows everything wether you want to believe it or not. so a person can be as secretive, and non-believing as possible, but he still knows it.
It isn’t that you acheive perfection, who knows how many times i have sinned, but salvation isn’t being perfect, but rather being inperfect, and being saved by grace. just because you sin doesn’t change the fact that God loves you. i have been "untrue", but I am still forgiven. I agree don’t stradle the fence, but don’t go on Satan’s side either!
what makes you think it would be even worse?? |
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| La_Sin_Grail |
| Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:25 pm |
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What I’m saying is it’s worse to put up a front that you’re religious when you don’t believe it than to just admit you don’t believe it.
If you do believe God knows everything, then he would obviously know that and I mean... common. If you were God and you had a liar who pretended to be religious while cursing the church under his breath or a good person who just wasn’t religious, which would you let in to heaven?
If there’s a good god, his answer is either neither (in which case I’m not going there) or the second one, in which case I am (not that I’m saying I agree in heaven, just putting it from your side). My point is I gain nothing by lying. |
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| ingold55 |
| Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:10 pm |
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neither. you didn’t believe in me and except my teachings, and what i said was true, so you were just as bad as the hipocrite who lied. it isn’t because of being good you achieve rightiousness. it is accepting God, believing he died and rose from the dead. then when that has happened, the person who accepted will try to live like Christ.
but over all, i would not let either in, because they didn’t believe in me. (i am playing the role of God, though i am not him) |
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| sickofpalantirs |
| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:38 am |
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ingold55 wrote: (i am playing the role of God, though i am not him)
u aren’t!
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| Hazael |
| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:04 pm |
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| La_Sin_Grail |
| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:54 pm |
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ingold55 wrote: neither. you didn’t believe in me and except my teachings, and what i said was true, so you were just as bad as the hipocrite who lied. it isn’t because of being good you achieve rightiousness. it is accepting God, believing he died and rose from the dead. then when that has happened, the person who accepted will try to live like Christ.
but over all, i would not let either in, because they didn’t believe in me. (i am playing the role of God, though i am not him)
Au contrere, mon ami, God hasn’t said crap to me. Only people have, and bunches of people say different things. If God really cares about each person, he’d give me the power to recognize the right one. Since none have jumped out at me, because none have, I’m going to have to reject the idea that God does care.
Anyways, I would never try to live like Christ. He let his friends suffer just to prove a point, something I would never do. I’m going to live the way I know best and that’s it.
If you’re not letting in either, then name a reason I should accept religion? If I don’t believe it, I become the liar you don’t let in, and I waste time for the same result. My way, I have a better chance, at least, and don’t have to waste any time.
P.S. Nice pic, Hazael |
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