Ingold is right that you can not git to heaven by works. Reliogion Has not Lost Its morals You HAVE

Actually, I lie less than anybody I know... the last time I lied.... probably over three weeks ago. I can’t seem to remember.

Disobeying parents, that’s easy. All the time. Every day. I only listen when they make sense.

Lust/envy? Um.... yes. Today at a spoils tournament, I was envious at my friend’s pool. I didn’t wish ill of him, I just wish I had that kind of luck. It’s like if you managed to pull two glare of subdual, a Bop, and a pair of hierarchs for your rares in a sealed. It was absolutely sick. As for the first one, not in a surprisingly long time. I’ve become rather disenchanted with people in general, lately, women included. << joke omitted, PM me if you want to hear it, as I’m sure somebody would complain if I posted it.

Dislike a person and thought evil of them? Well, there’s some guy I was playing recreational basketball against (there were teams and stuff, but it’s not counting for much) and he kept cursing and eventually screamed the F-word REALLY loudly and got a tech. foul for it and I thought he should get his mouth washed out with soap. In general, I try to make a point of not disliking people, just specific things about them, like prejudices or foul language. I don’t dislike the kid- he’s had a hard life so far, I just didn’t think he should be so vulgar in a fun game.

As for the last part of my last post, what I was saying is what if a person lacks the capacity to comprehend religion and consequentially CAN’T accept Christ? What if they just do the best they can with extremely limited mental capacity? Are they let in? I would say yes, a Christian would say no. I find that to be a problem.

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Here’s an even better question. What if somebody tries to accept religion but can’t ( a non-impaired individual?) Is trying your best enough? Once again, I would say yes, but a Christian would say no. I would find that a problem.

I pesonaly think THis POst should stop farily soon. It has gotten out of Hand.

I have not said religion has lost all it’s morals. There are some good things that can come from religion.

I’m relieved to hear about the thing from SoP, that’s definately good.

I guess my point is as long as somebody has done more good than evil, why shouldn’t they be let into heaven regardless of Christ? Doesn’t it kind of seem like if you are Christian you can do stuff wrong, then, but as long as you’re Christian, you’ll make it into heaven anyway? I duno... it feels like that would just be taking the easy way out, like getting rewarded for stuff you didn’t do.

Thanks, MH... I agree wholeheartedly. I was actually enjoying this discussion with ingold, as it gives me a greater perspective into the minds of other groups I don’t ordinarily get to understand, until hobbit came in.

I’m relieved to hear about the thing from SoP, that’s definately good.

What if a person had done the exact same amount? what would happen then?