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| NBarden |
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| I read the whole website and respectfully disagree. When they’re telling me that Islam is a religion of peace, and Islam’s Holy Book is telling me to kill all Christians and Jews, I have to disagree. I read Bush’s quote, and remember well when he said that. I disagree with him as well. |
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| sickofpalantirs |
| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:02 pm |
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hawkeyespf wrote: See, reading what you post makes me think that you didn’t actually read it at all. Wonder why Falwell’s comment instigated a riot that killed 14 people? Probably because Muslims who passionately disagreed with him were defending their religion, just as you would.
I wouldn’t riot if you violently criticized my religion.
Give me an occasion in the 20th/21st century where a comment declaring Christianity to be a violent religion triggered riots that killed 14 people? Or when people print cartoons making fun of christians do we Threaten to kill them and riot? The mystery of the Koran by Don Richardson is a wonderful book using the Koran to criticize the Koran.
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The terrorists who blew up the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
I read articles on that bombing. None of them claimed to be Christians from what I read. |
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| man_flesh |
| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:33 pm |
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Obviously many of us here vehemently disagree about politics and religion. But we can all agree on a few things.
One does not simply walk into Mordor.
Ents are not trees
Hobbit Sword should be banned
and finally,
We all love the same game.
NB I disagree with your political point of view but your deck ideas are great.
Lets all agree to disagree about politics and keep our game alive.
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| NBarden |
| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:39 pm |
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| Gate Troll |
| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:13 pm |
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hawkeyespf wrote:
You really are narrow minded if you believe that Islam is a violent religion and the world view of Muslims is to kill all Christians and Jews. In the reality that the rest of us live in, Islam is one of the most peaceful religions out there. It is because of people like Osama (Islam’s George W) who are intolerant of religions not their own that you believe the entirety of the religion is evil. You believe that every Muslim is out there just waiting to kill all the Christians and Jews they can because Osama and Al-queda use Islam as a point of reference among his people. If he ties his war to a religion, his cause will gain favor among the blind followers. Those followers now believe they are doing Allah’s will when it is not.
Its seems that the facts about Islam being violent are too much for you!
You accuse us of being narrow minded when we speak of the truth!
Truly you are the narrow-minded one. In your fake little reality
sphere everything is held in ’tolerant’ perfection. If something’s reality
is too much for you, you are dumb-founded; amazed that something
that you have held as perfect is shown to be what it really is.
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| CarpeGuitarrem |
| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:58 pm |
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hawkeyespf wrote:
You really are narrow minded if you believe that Islam is a violent religion and the world view of Muslims is to kill all Christians and Jews. In the reality that the rest of us live in, Islam is one of the most peaceful religions out there. It is because of people like Osama (Islam’s George W) who are intolerant of religions not their own that you believe the entirety of the religion is evil. You believe that every Muslim is out there just waiting to kill all the Christians and Jews they can because Osama and Al-queda use Islam as a point of reference among his people. If he ties his war to a religion, his cause will gain favor among the blind followers. Those followers now believe they are doing Allah’s will when it is not.
Translation of Islam: "Submission". The penalty for apostasy from Islam: execution. The concept of jihad? "Kill the unbeliever where you find him [in your holy places]." And then there’s "Strike off the heads of the unbelievers when you meet them in battle". I used to agree with your viewpoint, but now I’m not so sure. Because technically, the suicide bombers could be considered correct according to the Qu’ran.
Or then again, check out this quote (4:75 in the Qu’ran):
The Qu’ran, 4:75 wrote: Thus shall such disbelievers be rewarded. However, if they desist [from this disbelief], Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. Keep fighting against them, until persecution does not remain and Allah’s religion reigns supreme. But if they mend their ways, then [you should know that] an offensive is only allowed against the evil-doers.
Note especially that the Muslims are instructed to fight until "Allah’s religion reigns supreme.
Oh, yeah. Islam is a peaceful religion all right. They believe in peace, when all other religions are wiped off of the face of the earth.
Quote: Funny, you talk about legally electing a president - that’s really quite funny when W is the only president in the recent history of this country to lose the popular vote and still win the presidency.
That’s illegal how? |
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| sickofpalantirs |
| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:06 pm |
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| just because the electoral college is a stupid way to elect a prez doesn’t mean it is illegal. |
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