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Which is true?

The Bible

[ 23 ] 95%

The Da Vinci Code

[ 1 ] 4%

Total Votes : 24

sickofpalantirs

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:50 am

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

bibfortuna25 wrote:

You know, it occurs to me that the only reason many of you believe the Bible is true is because you were brought up to believe that.

If you never went to church and your parents never taught you anything about religion, you would think the Bible is just another work of fiction.

Something to think about.

maybe. but isn’t that the case for most religions?

also some people grow up in kinda bad home situations but become christions leter in life.

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Felipe Musco

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:23 am

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil

As I said before, I don’t think the Bible is NOT true, but it’s not ENTIRELY. Mainly because it speaks through metaphores (if you study it deeply, you’ll see what I mean), and because it contains the impressions and phantasies imprinted in the mind of the Apostoles (I’m pretty sure I mispelled that...).
And SoP is right, most religions DO follow some patterns. When I say I studied both sides, I actually read and studied Bibles of A LOT of different religions, AND works saying that’s not true, so I could come up with my opinion.
As I said, I’m forced to believe SOME kind of supernatural phenomena (be it "God"m Pangermanism or whatever) brought the Universe about, simply because NO explanation so far, besides the ones in the Bibles (all of them), could have actually happened, so, in this fashion, they’re ok by me. Also, as I said before in a thread where we discussed a bit of Quantum Physics, the so called "miracles" ARE, in a scientifical way, possible Shocked

(yes, they are), but Jesus himself and the other "miracle-workers" would HAVE to be of a "superior" nature (call it divine, evolved, mutant or alien) to actually condition their minds so that their bodies could physically BELIEVE that, for instance, walking on water WAS possible, so that they could pull it off.
But, AFTER studying both sides, and since I’m not exactly very keen on religion, so I can have a neutral position, I’ve had A LOT of data to produce my opinion, and that’s waht I said in the beggining. OF COURSE The Da Vince Code is a fiction novel, if it were not, the author would have made the biggest discovery of mankind yet, and he’d be sure to PROVE it, so he could collect his Nobel Prize later. However, as I said, he DOES have some (actually, a lot of) truth in his work, since he studied it pretty hard. The Bibles (every single one of them) contains some undenyable truth in it, however, they are not a history book, more of a rather different kind of novel, so, IMHO, the poll is incomplete, since NONE of them are, in fact, true. They do contain their own truths, some of them bulletproof, some depending on faith and beliefs, but they’re not entirely "true".

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sickofpalantirs

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:24 am

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

I have to disagree the bible is true.

I had this debate with LSG.

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Felipe Musco

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:30 am

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil

Sorry, SoP, but considering your age, and the many years you’ve been homeschooled, and, thus, bound to your faith, is something that compromises your opinion, AND I don’t really think you’ve done that much study as I did on the subject, since you probably never doubted it.
However, religions were created to serve a purpose (I won’t tell it so no more arguments will arise), and it seems it works fine for you, so, just be happy in whatever fashion you think it’s appropriate. I don’t know if you have this where you live, but here in Brazil, lately, a lot of "new" religions have appeared, and all of them are just a cover for taking money of people, behind the "shield of faith". THESE religions, I do NOT respect AT ALL, but the other ones, the ones around for a LONG long time, I do. I, for instance, like SOME things from SOME religions, so I’m getting married in a Church, with all the religious vows, since I think it’s a nice thing, but I’m a Taoist myself, maybe a Deist, but not a catholic anymore. I think my Church has shed enough blood for it to be Holy. And, as I sais, most of them did the same thing...

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physcosick

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:15 pm

Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 229 Location:

How does blood shed account for holiness? ..... Think

Gagnut

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:05 pm

Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 846 Location: Ames, Iowa

Do you think that for now on, we could stick to lighter subjects, just so that nobody has any grudges? I think it would be for the best.

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theOmnipotentOne

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:29 pm

Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 44 Location:

physcosick wrote:

theOmnipotentOne wrote:

And, another "law" states that as time moves on, energy decreases. Well, this would mean that all energy would cease to exists an infinite number of years ago if the universe has always been. So #2 dont work either.
~tOO

If you read my post above, you would know that I said that the earth has a self-replenishing mechanism known as climate change and ice age. It’s a natural phenomenai/process that revitalizes the earth, thus the "energy" may decrease, but at some point, it is reset, and earth begins again from practically scrath. It’s just a big cycle.

I’m not talking on an earthly scale, but on a universal scale. Over an infinite amount of time.

physchosick wrote:

PS: I think it’s safe for us all to say that tOO and I, physcosick, have come together to form the best explanation ever for the genesis and recreation of our planet.... although it was mostly me. Now that we have reached such conclusion... it’s time to dance Dancing