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NBarden
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:36 am
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
If X to the ∞ (infinity) power = ∞, and 0 to the Y power = 0 (DOMAIN: X=All Real Numbers, Y=All real Numbers), then does 0 to the ∞ power simultaneously equal 0 and infinity, in which case, are zero and infinity equal?

25 = 25 (fundamental duh)
25 = (-1)(-1)(25) (negative of a negative is a positive)
SQRT 25 = SQRT [(-1)(-1)(25)] (what you do to one side, you can do to the other)
SQRT 25 = SQRT (-1) * SQRT (-1) * SQRT (25) (splitting apart square roots is legal if number is in multiplicative form)
5 = i * i * 5 (SQRT of -1 = i)
5 = i^2 * 5 (i * i = I squared)
5 = -5 (i^2 = -1)
1=-1 (divide both sides by 5)

If infinity = 0, then -2 = infinity minus 2. All operations on infinity result in infinity, thus, -2 = infinity. Taking it a step further, we can deduce that all real numbers equal infinity by the same logic, and thus all real numbers equal infinity. Taking it one more step, if all real numbers equal infinity, and any operations on infinity equal infinity, then the square root of a negative equals infinity, and thus EVERY SINGLE NUMBER IN THE UNIVERSE equals infinity and 0, and thus all numbers are equal to each other.
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Gate Troll
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:45 am
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NBarden wrote:
If X to the ∞ (infinity) power = ∞, and 0 to the Y power = 0 (DOMAIN: X=All Real Numbers, Y=All real Numbers), then does 0 to the ∞ power simultaneously equal 0 and infinity, in which case, are zero and infinity equal?

25 = 25 (fundamental duh)
25 = (-1)(-1)(25) (negative of a negative is a positive)
SQRT 25 = SQRT [(-1)(-1)(25)] (what you do to one side, you can do to the other)
SQRT 25 = SQRT (-1) * SQRT (-1) * SQRT (25) (splitting apart square roots is legal if number is in multiplicative form)
5 = i * i * 5 (SQRT of -1 = i)
5 = i^2 * 5 (i * i = I squared)
5 = -5 (i^2 = -1)
1=-1 (divide both sides by 5)

If infinity = 0, then -2 = infinity minus 2. All operations on infinity result in infinity, thus, -2 = infinity. Taking it a step further, we can deduce that all real numbers equal infinity by the same logic, and thus all real numbers equal infinity. Taking it one more step, if all real numbers equal infinity, and any operations on infinity equal infinity, then the square root of a negative equals infinity, and thus EVERY SINGLE NUMBER IN THE UNIVERSE equals infinity and 0, and thus all numbers are equal to each other.


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CarpeGuitarrem
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:55 am
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 3361 Location: Franciscan University of Steubenville
Infinity is not a number, so you can’t do math with infinity. Thus #1 and #3 make no sense.

Regarding #2, the closest I could find...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invalid_proof#Version_2
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:02 pm
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Australia does not exist yet. And the point when it does exist will never come.

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Anonymous Prodigy
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:50 pm
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 4197 Location: United States
But does that mean that to Australians, America does not exist? Think

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NBarden
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:48 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:
Infinity is not a number, so you can’t do math with infinity. Thus #1 and #3 make no sense.

Regarding #2, the closest I could find...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invalid_proof#Version_2


Infinity is not a number? Really?

If you can’t do math with infinity, than what on earth is calculus?

And proof number two is different.
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AgentDrake
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:59 pm
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Infinity isn’t a normal number, because it’s undefined, and Zero screws around with the rules of math. ie, can’t divide by 0.
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NBarden
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:32 pm
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Asymptotes deal with 0 and infinity, actually, that’s ALL they deal with.

Math deals a LOT with 0 and infinity.

Infinity is infinity. You deal with it all the time. It may be undefined, but there are some rules for infinity, namely, an operation on infinity = infinity and X^infinity = infinity.
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CarpeGuitarrem
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:07 pm
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 3361 Location: Franciscan University of Steubenville
It doesn’t have to be a number for you to deal with it in math. While 0 is a number, ∞ is not...because a number is like a specific point. A number has a value. ∞ does not have a value.

Because it’s undefined, all the normal rules don’t apply to it. That’s what I meant when I said "you can’t do math with infinity". The rules you mentioned are pretty much the only allowable ones.
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NBarden
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:22 pm
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Is 3i a number? Its undefined.

Just because something’s undefined doesn’t mean its NaN.
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