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| Anonymous Prodigy |
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bunnydaman wrote: actually now tjat i think about it, a girl president right now may not be good becuse US isnt ready for such a change, but i like the idea of a girl president, because it shows that men are not superior. i think they are equal, and woman are just as good as men.
I cannot agree. Women do not belong in politics. They are not lesser than men, but they do not belong in politics.
And if everyone is equal, how can you, in good conscience, support someone [Obama] who favors legalized abortion? |
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| bunnydaman |
| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:19 pm |
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well, for immature teenagers i think it is wrong, but think about the woman who are raped, and have no control, but they are stuck with the burdan of a child they may not have wanted, or they cant raise well? i think the idea of abortion is bad, but the woman who had no control deserve to have the option of abortion.
why dont woman belong in politics? |
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| macheteman |
| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:42 pm |
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ok, first i’d like to say, let’s stay away from the women in gov. junk debate. i see your point AP, but to say that "women don’t belong in politics" is sounds a little whimsical. wait...
as for abortion, i’ve had to write a paper about it, and i had to study for this paper, and i read about a TON of studies done by a ton of different groups (i can get a few names if you want them) and anyone that says abortion keeps women’s health as paramount, is practically either terribly misinformed or lying. women who have abortions have so many emotional and physical problems that it’s an horrid. and there is a much greater chance of a woman dying after she has an abortion.
i can grab some sources if you want them.
but PLEASE stay out of the women in politics debate. it’s just not helpful.
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| Frank_the_Hippo |
| Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:37 am |
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| bunnydaman |
| Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:47 am |
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ok, i would say something, but i wont. i hate abortiin, but there shouldbe the option, but it shiould be made known the dangers of it, so immature teendagers dont want to get it, but the womn who had no ontrol have the option. they should hoose mhether its worth it or not. they are scarred for life anyways. i know how bad it is, but pretend you are one of the woman, and think from their point of view. for lots of things, not just abortion. you see, men see sbortion differently than girls. we are the ones stuck with the burdan and havt to deal with it. you guys dont.
AP, quite frankly, that is sexist. its not like man havent made bas disisions before. just look at bush! look at what hes done and dont say that woman woman would be bad presidents. I wont continue the debate, but once again, think of it from the womans point of view. woman can think for our country too. men also act on a whim sometimes. |
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| macheteman |
| Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:30 am |
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throw abortion in the balance, the "burden" of a child versus the horrid emotional anguish, loss of sleep, physical damage for the rest of the woman’s life. and the woman can put the baby up for adoption. me and my family are a foster family for babies who are waiting to be adopted.
for the record, studies have shown that less than one percent of all abortions are due to rape or incest. and that’s combined, both of those together don’t even make a whole 1%. |
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| bunnydaman |
| Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:35 am |
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well, i thik that the 99% should think better and be warned of the deal and not be allowed, but the mere 1% should be allowed. i am pretty sure that it costs money to put a child up for adoption. also, it hurts to have a kid...
ok, nevermind. this will turn into a big annoying thing with people getting mad at eachother... ill shut myself up now |
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| macheteman |
| Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:44 am |
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i’m sick of people getting mad at each other. i will do my absolute best not to get mad during this, and if others do, i’m sure the mods will take appropriate action. but we can’t stop voicing our opinions because others disagree. it deprives people of hearing a different viewpoint.
adoptions cost for the people adopting, not for the mother of the child.
it does hurt to have a kid. something that i’ll never experience, but does that make it right to destroy a living organism? you said hunting was cruel. ok, i can understand that, but how can you make that difference between one living organism and another?
the emotional and physical pain of having an abortion lasts far far longer that the pain of childbirth. and effect so many more areas of life. in the end, the anguish of having an abortion far outweighs the pain of carrying and giving birth to a child.
i don’t have enough time right now, but i have dug out my research, and will try to post the studies and what groups they were done by, tonight if at all possible.
i just want to say this: that if anyone gave a darn about women’s health, they would look at the effects of abortion, and realize how terribly harmful it is to the mother herself. |
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| Gate Troll |
| Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:59 pm |
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| Abortion is wrong because it is a human life being taken. If someone kills a pregnant woman, the killer is guilty of a double murder. But if a doctor, who has has sworn the Hippocratic Oath takes the life of a child it is not even frowned on by the Democratic community. However if a person destroys a rare egg of a bird of some ’protected species’ the left wing media and press prints a frontpage rant against the so-called ’perpetrator of animal cruelty’ and has a field day denouncing his ’evilness’. If a woman has been raped; is it not selfishness to remove something she has not desired? Is it so important that a child, a gift from God that has been sent for a purpose, must be destroyed in order to preserve that woman’s control on her life? I think not. All and all, only the most horrible of women would sacrifice the life of her own child. |
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| macheteman |
| Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:26 pm |
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WTFlip? do you realize that you just totally bashed democrats for everything? like they are the "bad guys" or something.
abortion not frowned upon by the "Democratic community"? that’s a rather gross generalization. and it’s a GREAT thing that our country defends endangered species. it is cruel to animals if you destroy an egg of a rare bird.
and then to come back and talk about God right after that shows a large disconnect. The thing that the Bible says should separate Christians from others is their LOVE. "They will know you are Christians by your love." but does ANYONE think "love" when you say christian? no. because they know us by our hate, and they know us by what we are AGAINST. They know we are christians because we are AGAINST homosexuality, AGAINST abortion, AGAINST premarital sex. do i think those things are wrong? yes. but is a homo any more of a sinner than I am? of course not!
and there are tons of Christians who yell and scream about homosexuality, and never think about the fact that gluttony is just as wrong. or look at it this way: is God’s saving grace any less able to save someone who has had an abortion? God forbid!
You said: "only the most horrible of women would sacrifice the life of her own child." the thing is, you’ve gotta own up to the fact that you and me are just as evil.
this should really be split into a new thread. |
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