Re: Merits of a PC

[ket_the_jet]

First of all, I have been compared to much worse than Hilter, Goebbels, or Mussolini. I actually don't view these things as insults. That is not to say that those three were not atrocious, it is just to say that I appreciate the comparison to some of the most well-known polarizing political figures.

I'm no lesser being then you and vice versa.

I see myself as well above any other human.

...because you negelect our feelings...

Exactly.

Secondly, before I begin, Gate Troll, your cover is blown. You were outed as a spy and faction warrior of my North American Zionist Institution for the Purity of Lord of the Rings Trading Card Games, or NAZI, as I like to call it for short. Please report back to base for a bullet lodged in your temple--uh, I mean a medal of commendation for your brave works on the front lines. Mr. "Captain Piett" Lurtzy, make ready to land our troops beyond their energy shield and deploy the fleet so that nothing gets off the system. You are in command now, Admiral Piett...

Now that I have gotten that out of the way...let's get to the heart of the matter.

I agree on Ket that we might not need more then this site. we can do this at tlhh, sure.. no problem. But what i think a pc is great for us is that it's easier to get more organized gameplay cq tournaments.

Here's what I want you to do. Go outside. Grab three to five decks of varying skill level. Go to a park or a local card store or something, and just find someone and say, "Let's play." Then rinse and repeat, let's say 800 times. Once everyone on this site does that, maybe a Players' Committee would be helpful. But in the meantime, while our community is less than 400 active members, just go out and meet people and introduce them to the game.

Your flawed assumption is that people are actively looking for a Lord of the Rings trading card game website and having a Players' Committee website solves all of our problems. Guess what? It doesn't. Taking a little initiative and meeting people and going to card shows and introducing people to the game is what brings in new players, not a flashy (if not poorly designed) website.

A pc should control this so people like ket and his minions/followers are protected that their needs are guaranteed.

You haven't earned the right to talk down at me like that. And I don't have minions. It just so happens that I am the only one dumb enough to actually go into any detail about the shortcomings of this plan, and so it is easy for people who agree to echo.

A pc is there for organization and ballance and supporting it's players in it's needs. Nothing more.

I'm calling #$&*@! on that. CobraCards, and now The Last Homely Home and GCCG are a nice play to organize and to play and to support these members. You Players' Committee guys can't even get your stories straight. Some of you say dream cards are happening. Others say "never." Some people say Worldwide tournaments. Others say, "well, realistically maybe some sort of regional tournament." Some of you say "support and balance players." Others say, "Rebuild the Lord of the Rings community so this game can 'live forever.'"

...that is selfish.

How is me pursuing my goals any more selfish than you pursuing yours? Of course what I am doing is selfish because I want what is best for me, but I also want what is best for the game at this point, which is not a group of people coming up with grand projects until they realize the obstacles in their way and abandoning those projects (e.g., the ever-successful Lord of the Rings magazine and it's shelf-life of...wait, it didn't even have one issue?!).

actually ket should be in the council!

Fat chance. You guys couldn't be so lucky.

...others, like Thranduill, me, chompers and others to do what they would like...

This is just not very well thought-out. What would be a point of a Players' Committee if it did not become the  internationally "successful" standard modus operandi for Lord of the Rings players? Like I told Kenddrick...if you guys want a Players' Committee so badly, grow a pair and put the website up and just say, "#$&*@! everyone else...if you don't like the PC then #$&*@! off. But we are starting this and we are defacto leaders until this thing is off the ground."

Only thing I say is that I favour a pc, but that I have big doubts of seeing it happen, because there is a lack of input imo and the endless discussion between the Jay and the nay's

Have a little goddamned confidence in your plan. But that's the problem. The first one of you who says, "#$&*@! it, let's do this and #$&*@! the naysayers (i.e., me)!" and makes the project his (or hers in a much less likely scenario) apparently does not have the confidence to believe this thing would succeed. Because I guarantee you, if I was at all convinced that the Players' Committee was even a marginally good idea, then I would have spearheaded this operation, been the group's nuts, and things would be off the ground.

This comes to a huge issue to me. The few people in support of the Players' Committee that I genuinely believe would be good leaders are not interested in leading. No offense to you, or Kenddrick, or chompers, but I am not convinced that the three of you are who I would trust this game's future to. Hawkeye doesn't want to do it and Thranduil has backed away from a large leadership role. And I understand that it isn't just "one person's" responsibility, but having someone up there who can kick #$&*@! and take names and make things happen is hugely important. You guys don't have that. At all. Star Wars had a strong leader at the beginning. Star Trek has a strong leader at the beginning. They also created a PC in the early years of Decipher's abandonment, when the playing group was still strong.

I would much rather continue going here, where Kralik has created this wonderful little slice of cyberspace for us to come #$&*@! around about a near-dead trading card game. And yes, I'm sure "near-dead trading card game" will be quoted and you will make some grand hurrah about how you want to "bring it back to life" but #$&*@! that, it's not happening.

That's exactly the reason why a pc is needed: to get general agreement on some matters.

What makes you think that you will get more agreement just by having another website? Because I won't be there? Or because people who don't care enough to follow this "dream" won't be there?

Have you played on GCCG? Get on board. Play a game. I am 99% sure Lord of the Rings will become a game to you again instead of some grand plan to marginalize a lot of the long-standing members of the international community (I'm not talking about myself here...rather, people like Kralik and Heije and Admiral Pi--er, Lurtzy and those other CobraCards people who have been around for a while and are not in support) and creating something that is not even necessary.

Finally, I feel like I am having deja vu describing my qualms with a Players' Committee. I posted a lot of thoughts here some months ago. That's funny...the PC still isn't up.
-wtk