Beseigers

[ket_the_jet]

When RotK came out, I made a kick-#$&*@! besiegers deck. However, I am scanning the Movie Block boards, and it appears no one plays Besiegers at all! Is there a reason for that?

I don't remember the exact deck list, but it looked something like this:

Gorgoroth Agitator x3
Gorgoroth Garrison x3
Gorgoroth Soldier x3
Gorgoroth Pillager x3
Gorgoroth Sapper x2
Gorgoroth Troop x2
Gorgoroth Berserker x3
Gorgoroth Swarm x3

Din of Arms x4

Encirclement x2
Tower Walkway x2
Troop Tower x3
Grond, Hammer of the Underworld x3
Dead Marshes

I feel like the deck was only 32-34 cards to run most efficiently. But you get the idea. Why don't people play besiegers?

I had this deck coupled with Gondor Knights and Gondor Ring-Bound Rangers and the deck worked nicely both times. I dissolved this shadow when I dissolved my Gondor Rangers deck and moved my Direct Wounding shadow over to my Gondor Knights. Maybe it is nostalgia, but I'd love to give this deck a shot again; I was just curious as to why no one plays besiegers.

Edit: I also used to run Gorgoroth Officer...doesn't seem anyone runs him, I suppose?
-wtk

[Not a Zombie]

People do, they just don't often put decklist of them up. One reason I think is that they can be kinda hard to make and no one wants to give up their secrets

[ket_the_jet]

Fair enough. I just assumed no one played them which would be a shame because they are neat.

Din of Arms is one of the most fun cards printed, if you ask me.
-wtk

[ket_the_jet]

http://lotrtcgwiki.com/forums/index.php/topic,1439.0.html

Besides being an entertaining read, this had some good reminders of great Besieger cards.
-wtk

[ket_the_jet]

32 cards.

1 Gollum, Old Villain
3 Gorgoroth Agitator
3 Gorgoroth Berserker
4 Gorgoroth Keeper
4 Gorgoroth Soldier
2 Gorgoroth Swarm
3 Gorgoroth Troop

1 Ithil Stone

1 Encirclement
1 Fat One Wants It
2 Their Marching Companies
3 Troop Tower

4 Captured by the Ring

I think I like this one best, actually. Maybe a copy of Dead Marshes in case Encirclement gets discarded or you need a Troop Tower in a pinch.

And what about Din of Arms? Do people not run that?
-wtk

[itjunkie]

i've been searching for a good besiegers deck...and it does seem like ur the only one using din of arms, ket. hehe

[ket_the_jet]

Looking back at the deck list I posted, it is not very good. Din of Arms is a fun splash card--two copies, maybe, is about fine.

That said, I was never really a fan of the Trolls even though they were ridiculously powerful. But I think everyone knows that I try to avoid cards from sets 8-10 when possible.
-wtk

[uncle_elrond]

i've been searching for a good besiegers deck...and it does seem like ur the only one using din of arms, ket. hehe

I use Din of Arms with mine.  I think it's a great card because it gives you a site and strength boost.  But yeah I only use 2 copies because I like more minions in this type of deck.

That said, I was never really a fan of the Trolls even though they were ridiculously powerful. But I think everyone knows that I try to avoid cards from sets 8-10 when possible.
-wtk

The only Troll I use with them is Troll of Gorgoroth just because it's an easy way to stack minions on sites.

[itjunkie]

Ologhai of mordor seems pretty easy to play as well... though much better late game.

[Elessar's Socks]

- I'd treat Din of Arms as a borderline add/drop. It seems to hit the right notes, but I guess I just haven't had a moment where it saved the game for me. Nice side effect though if DoA discards a card your opponent was needing.

- Wondering if Gorgoroth Servitor would be a good addition in Expanded to tech against archery + Orophin / Rumil Silvan Elf. Shadowplay still leaves my builds QQ'ing in the corner.

- I'd be surprised if someone breaks out the Gollum engine in Movie, since Movie has good threat-adding sites like Hall of the Kings, Crashed Gate (a site instead is good, too), and Dagorlad. IIRC Troll swarms were popular then; for reference, here's Josh Cornwell-Mott's build:

1 Gorgoroth Agitator
3 Gorgoroth Assassin
4 Gorgoroth Soldier
2 Gorgoroth Swarm
4 Great Hill Troll
2 Siege Troop
3 Troll of Gorgoroth, AoS

4 Great Siege Towers
2 Grond, HotU
1 Ithil Stone
2 Their Marching Companies
2 Tower Walkway
1 Troop Tower

[rubbercarp]

- I'd treat Din of Arms as a borderline add/drop. It seems to hit the right notes, but I guess I just haven't had a moment where it saved the game for me. Nice side effect though if DoA discards a card your opponent was needing.

- Wondering if Gorgoroth Servitor would be a good addition in Expanded to tech against archery + Orophin / Rumil Silvan Elf. Shadowplay still leaves my builds QQ'ing in the corner.

- I'd be surprised if someone breaks out the Gollum engine in Movie, since Movie has good threat-adding sites like Hall of the Kings, Crashed Gate (a site instead is good, too), and Dagorlad. IIRC Troll swarms were popular then; for reference, here's Josh Cornwell-Mott's build:

1 Gorgoroth Agitator
3 Gorgoroth Assassin
4 Gorgoroth Soldier
2 Gorgoroth Swarm
4 Great Hill Troll
2 Siege Troop
3 Troll of Gorgoroth, AoS

4 Great Siege Towers
2 Grond, HotU
1 Ithil Stone
2 Their Marching Companies
2 Tower Walkway
1 Troop Tower

I play something similar.
I've found the most success with Besiegers when they are focused around dropping cheap trolls late in the game.