Deft in Their Movement

[Ulfmane]

question:

If my opponent is in (my) site 8 and I´m on site 6, I play something that gives me +1 mov and in reg I play deft in their mov to reduce shadow site´s number... then i try to triple move, but my opponent said deft in their mov does not affect site 9 since when it was played site couldn´t be spotted... is this right?

thx

[Not a Zombie]

I would say no, you are right. it doesn't say each site you can spot, just each site.

[Alazzar]

This is actually something that is specifically addressed in the Comprehensive Rulebook... certain cards take a "snapshot" of what's already in play and modify those cards only.  I think they examples they used were Deft in Their Movements and... uh... Eregion's Trails, maybe?

Anyway, point is, Deft in their Movements unfortunately will not affect sites that aren't already in play.

If you'd like, I could crack open the Comprehensive Rulebook and find the actual excerpt.  =P

[Kralik]

Are you sure? It says, "until the end of the turn."

[Kralik]

Lo and behold, you are right! That significantly changes the deck I use it in. From the Comprehensive Rulebook 4.0:

Some event cards affect only cards that are
currently in play, even though their effects
might seem to apply to cards played later in the
same turn. These events take a "snapshot" of
the current game state, and only those cards are
affected.
Eregion's Trails ("Maneuver: Exert a ranger to
make each roaming minion strength –3 until
the regroup phase.") affects only minions that are
roaming when that event is played.
Deft in Their Movements (Regroup: "Spot 2
Hobbits to make each site's Shadow number –2
until the end of the turn.") affects only sites that are
in play when it is played.

[Ulfmane]

so, in another example, let say I´m ahead and able to use thror´s map or pathfinder or any card that lets me play the nrext site.... in this way I think I could use deft in their movements.... but unfortunately not to do the triple move my deck meant to

[Alazzar]

Yeah, as long as the site is already on the adventure path, Deft in Their Movements will affect it.  If the site isn't in play yet, it won't be affected.  Sorry.  =(

[Malachi]

Wow, that's interesting. I shouldn't have lost that game after all!

[rubbercarp]

Yeah, as long as the site is already on the adventure path, Deft in Their Movements will affect it.  If the site isn't in play yet, it won't be affected.  Sorry.  =(

So Deft in Their Movements only works if you are behind your opponent on the site path?

[Alazzar]

So Deft in Their Movements only works if you are behind your opponent on the site path?

Or if you played your own site before moving to it, like with Pathfinder or Get on and Get Away.

[Kralik]

Ah, Get On and Get Away seems to be the only way to use it when tripling.

[Alazzar]

Well, Get on and Get Away is a Fellowship event, and Deft in their Movements is Regroup, so GOaGA would only allow DitM to affect one site.  You'd move to the first of the two sites you played in the Fellowship phase, then play Deft in their Movements in regroup, thus affecting the second site you'd played.

Ah, Get On and Get Away seems to be the only way to use it when tripling.

And Pathfinder could work while tripling; you'd just have to play a Pathfinder before each Deft in their Movements, so you'd need two of each.  =P

[Kralik]

 

Good point. Pathfinder it is then...