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September 06, 2010, 10:45:02 am
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Tbiesty

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This discussion and ruling is part of the series of discussions and rulings for an "Unofficial Rulebook" as described here.

This discussion will be open from Sept 6, 2010 - Sept 9, 2010.
The outcome of this discussion and ruling will be added to the "Unofficial Rulebook".

Discussion #20:

I wanted to clarify how A Shadow Rises and the deceived wizards specifically work when Phial of Galadriel, Starglass is used. This is trying to expand upon the ruling for A Shadow Rises in the CRD. Even though basically everything on those cards is "game text", when the "game text" is used, it adds non-"game text" things like strength, vitality, etc. to the card, which are not removed by Phial of Galadriel, Starglass.

I'd like to get input from others.  Here it goes:

A Shadow Rises
When you make this card a minion, move it out of your support area. When this card is no longer a minion, move it back to your support area.
If a character bearing Phial of Galadriel, Starglass is skirmishing A Shadow Rises and discards the Phial of Galadriel, Starglass, A Shadow Rises is still a [Wraith] minion that has 10 strength and 3 vitality and is still a condition, but loses "Fierce", and can bear other cards. If A Shadow Rises bears cards when its maneuver special ability is used, those cards are discarded.

Alatar Deceived
When you make this card a minion, move it out of your support area. When this card is no longer a minion, move it back to your support area.
If a character bearing Phial of Galadriel, Starglass is skirmishing Alatar Deceived and discards the Phial of Galadriel, Starglass, Alatar Deceived is still an [Isengard] Wizard minion that has 11 strength and 1 vitality and is still a condition, but loses "Fierce" and "Damage +1", and can take wounds and bear other cards. If Alatar Deceived bears cards when it becomes a Wizard, those cards are discarded.

Pallando Deceived
When you make this card a minion, move it out of your support area. When this card is no longer a minion, move it back to your support area.
If a character bearing Phial of Galadriel, Starglass is skirmishing Pallando Deceived and discards the Phial of Galadriel, Starglass, Pallando Deceived is still an [Isengard] Wizard minion that has 10 strength and 1 vitality and is still a condition, but loses "Fierce", and can take wounds and bear other cards. If Pallando Deceived bears cards when it becomes a Wizard, those cards are discarded.

Radagast Deceived
When you make this card a minion, move it out of your support area. When this card is no longer a minion, move it back to your support area.
If a character bearing Phial of Galadriel, Starglass is skirmishing Radagast Deceived and discards the Phial of Galadriel, Starglass, Radagast Deceived is still an [Isengard] Wizard minion that has 12 strength and 1 vitality and is still a condition, but loses "Fierce", and can take wounds and bear other cards. If Radagast Deceived bears cards when it becomes a Wizard, those cards are discarded.
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September 06, 2010, 12:26:29 pm
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Re: Unofficial Rulebook Discussion #20 (Sept 6 - Sept 9) -- Deceived Wizards
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2010, 12:26:29 pm »
Correct
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September 08, 2010, 06:07:54 pm
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Re: Unofficial Rulebook Discussion #20 (Sept 6 - Sept 9) -- Deceived Wizards
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2010, 06:07:54 pm »
Yeah, seems good to me.

September 09, 2010, 07:43:25 am
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Re: Unofficial Rulebook Discussion #20 (Sept 6 - Sept 9) -- Deceived Wizards
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2010, 07:43:25 am »
Very nice work, Tbiesty! Have a :gp:!

September 10, 2010, 12:02:57 pm
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Tbiesty

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Re: Unofficial Rulebook Discussion #20 (Sept 6 - Sept 9) -- Deceived Wizards
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2010, 12:02:57 pm »
Thanks for verifying my clarifications.  The "Unofficial Rulebook" has now been updated.

September 10, 2010, 12:04:46 pm
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Re: Unofficial Rulebook Discussion #20 (Sept 6 - Sept 9) -- Deceived Wizards
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2010, 12:04:46 pm »
Just keeping discussions in sorted order.